posted on: October 19, 2020
(What's changed recently is that with the most recent update, the BBC can more reliably authenticate that the client is iOS or a Playstation via certificates).I also recall a good period where Apple users were excluded from using iPlayer when it was a Windows-only program using a Microsoft-only DRM technology - with the BBC's explanation being Apple's lack of support for video DRM - outside of their own iTunes store.Before all that, the BBC used RealPlayer. Or is that just a mistake in the blog? Complain about this comment (Comment number 97). Is there a reason for imposing a non-native video format on one but not the other?
A little disappointed with this tbh.Locked down on WIFI only, so its not 100% mobile, I have no issues streaming on 3G.No iPhone Support? Or sat in the doctor's waiting room. If you could give us the 'technical' reason alluded to, but not included in the original post why something that we already know works can't work, I'm sure that would help. Complain about this comment (Comment number 82). (Fire Stick, Fire TV, and Android TV Boxes). This would have maximized our reach, but would have resulted in a very poor quality experience on many phones as video playback capabilities and web browser rendering vary across devices. Why flash? When you open the BBC iPlayer app or log on to BBC iPlayer on your iPad, BBC inspects your Public IP address. Complain about this comment (Comment number 24). This can be achieved by changing your IP address to one that belongs to the UK. You will receive a verification email shortly. This has been possible on Android for years using an app called myPlayer. These devices all use the same standard Flash player which means we can offer a consistently high quality playback across all of them. Download BBC iPlayer and enjoy it on your iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. However regarding Flash this was what David said in the post I have already linked to:"Using Adobe Flash 10.1 streaming on mobile delivers significant infrastructure efficiencies for the BBC, as we use our existing video and audio encoding plant to create the streams. Will this be the same for iplayer on ipad? "Our Flash streams need a powerful mobile phone processor and a Wi-Fi connection to ensure a smooth viewing experience"This simply isn't true otherwise how did I manage to use the MyPlayer app on my old Android phone? Complain about this comment (Comment number 4). Let's stop this nonsense and start being a bit more honest, please. The blog is reactively moderated. For the latest updates across BBC blogs, visit the Blogs homepage. When my phone is perfectly capable of viewing mp4 streams which are already there for the iphone, this is disappointing.I'm not sure I understand the DRM argument. "Thanks, Complain about this comment (Comment number 20). Post categories: Complain about this comment (Comment number 49), I want to get it! Stay tuned for TechRadar's in-depth hands-on with the app later today. MP4 streams would be infinitely better. initially, we quickly repurposed our big screen version, post from last year on iPlayer on Android. That's why we're trying to get a high quality experience on as many devices as possible rather than a poor quality one that might cover all devices. We've been promised Android support before by the BBC (https://goo.gl/axkfl%29 so, no offence, I'll believe it when I see it!
"Will it be the *full* catalogue of catch-up programmes? TechRadar is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. There are many current devices that are still being sold with Android 2.1. Will we be able to access local radio streams via the android app? This IP address has a direct relation to your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and is from a particular server belonging to the ISP. The best part of a year ago another developer had an app capable of downloading iPlayer content to iPhones for playback when out of WiFi range, but was blocked from releasing it. Lazy and disappointing. Explain. @Peet the Sadly TruncatedAll iOS devices can use a version of the iPlayer website that will offer streams in the MP4 format that the devices can handle. Complain about this comment (Comment number 65). Complain about this comment (Comment number 31). Really looking forward to installing this on my Galaxy Tab. Adobe won't bring out 10.1 for the HTC Legend because of its CPU but when they demo'd Flash 10.1 it was on the same CPU.Basically because Adobe are lazy the BBC won't let me view its content.Applications like Beebplayer and myPlayer for Android which deliver the Apple steams to Android (and work very well) get shutdown by the BBC but the BBC won't provide alternatives. I doubt anyone will mind. Complain about this comment (Comment number 17). Your public IP is the identifier that is then used to determine your location. It's at an ideal resolution for mobile use on all platforms, or for those with slower connections. There's no flash on the iPad, so why do we need it on Android? Someone signing up to a 2 year contract on an Android phone (with Android 2.2) thinking it will run iPlayer, and then finding that it will NEVER have that capability, is likely to be exceedingly annoyed. Otherwise.... well, people want to watch offline. If you were honest enough to say that it was to make copying more difficult to keep rights holders happy, I think we would all have a lot more respect for you. Complain about this comment (Comment number 2). And I'm willing to pay to be able to use it from Spain! I've read the whole thread, but I'm still looking for clarification. Please fix or get better IP sniffing or whatever you use! Lazy BBC. Yes, the earlier platforms may not be as performant but that shouldn't preclude users being able to make their *own* decisions as to whether it will work well enough for them (abeit with caveats on its likely performance) - and the development team doing their bit to make it work as well as it could. Complain about this comment (Comment number 44). Thanks Nick. As others above, I'm curious about why the Android version seems to be aimed at all Android deviced while the iOS version is iPad only.
Complain about this comment (Comment number 95), Thanks to Phil for asking people to stick to the point. I know you are a corporate employee and must spout the party line, but please stop treating us like idiots. If you have an older version of the Android platform, you may be able to upgrade, so please check with your device manufacturer and/or mobile network provider for information about Android system updates. Show more. Complain about this comment (Comment number 27). To download and use the app you'll need a device that uses Android version 2.2 and has Adobe Flash 10.1 Player installed. A good VPN will allow you to stream HD content easily.
As I said, I get non-ideal experience over 3G already using the main web site, but, ya know what, that's *OK*, and I think most people would get that (with maybe a minor 'warning' on the UI to help out). Upgrade and backward compatability is an area where many software providers get it wrong; in general Apple have been very careful on this which has given them a significant market advantage imho. What are the BBC's plans/policy towards the iPod Touch?I bought one recently - it's efectively an iPad, just with a smaller screen. This is why I have been so supportive of Apple's stance on blocking Adobe's technology from its platform. You may not care about quality but the BBC does. Fairly simple, surely - Flash 10.1 and iOS support a (small) level of content protection, which prevents us from easily downloading the video stream onto our desktop machines (i.e. Disappointed that you feel the need to rely on Flash for one platform when the other doesn't support it, and unofficial apps have no problem with streaming iPlayer content today without Flash 10.1, even over 3G.If this is the Corporation's attitude then long may Beebplayer live on! Would it not make more sense to endorse one of these fine apps, rather than telling people they cannot use them, and not providing a satisfactory alternative? However, I too am disappointed that programmes can't be download for viewing later - even in the "safe" Apple world. You can easily see yours by just typing ‘IP Address’ on Google. "Thanks, Complain about this comment (Comment number 71). Beebplayer works over 3G and is very watchable even while on the move. Any idea when the BBC News app will be appearing on Android phones? That's no politics show for Northern Ireland, no Scottish/Welsh drama that isn't network - nothing from Alba. You lose a lot more respect when you try treat us as fools. This means that though the streaming service itself is free, you can only enjoy it while in the UK. Previous explanations by Erik Huggers clearly highlight he / the team don't understand the issues and the technology. There is also no ability to download shows for later viewing. They then introduce, first, a web based iplayer client, then an application, which only support a subset of Android devices, being exceedingly cagey over its limitations with regards to supported devices.The really absurd this about this "app" is that it it only supports the same devices as the existing web interface. There was a problem.
Complain about this comment (Comment number 21). Complain about this comment (Comment number 28). How about having download capability? To download the app, head over to the Apple App Store. He goes on to say that the information was mentioned in a BBC briefing and that the app appears to be iPad only at the moment, so there's still no word as to when the iPod and iPhone version of the iPlayer will be released. © I'm really continuously disappointed in the BBC. You keep banging on about quality (the reason you're choosing Flash+Wifi), but NO ONE CARES. If the BBC gave you something that worked poorly on your chosen device I suggest you might be unhappy. Nick Reynolds wrote:"Enabling Flash on Android 2.2 devices also means that all current and new devices that support Android 2.2 can get BBC iPlayer. (the lack of that ability makes the app pretty useless for most people). Why is the BBC dragging its heels on all these devices?
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An app which replicates what my mobile browser can already do, it appears. Complain about this comment (Comment number 8).
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